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Posted - 2016.08.22 09:05:43 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Generally when I look at Reddit I also check out the down voted posts for people whose opinion is against the herd.
I do that too, but it isn't quite that simple. In order to both confuse bots early (so someone can't write a bot to have their own threads and comments massively upvoted) and to make sure there is a constant turnover of threads, reddit's voting algorithm smudges the values. There is a good article on both thread and comment voting, here: https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-reddit-ranking-algorithms-work-ef111e33d0d9#.4m0ilvuty (and the link internally to a post by the author of the voting algorithm is a good read too). That means, the numbers aren't true numbers, so especially early on in a thread, scores might not be a good indicator, particularly because of the next secnetence. r/eve votes are significantly affected by the flare selected. For example posts from Goons are often heavily downvoted, while former MBC Alliances are heavily upvoted, even if they post essentially the same comment. I still always look down the bottom of threads, but the reliability of r/eve voting scores is never certain. Early karma points are now hidden, didn't you notice? For an hour? Can't tell for sure.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 09:20:03 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:We need harsher moderation in here.
The amount of threads getting derailed by others all the time is a pain in the arse.
I mean the obvious trolls who come in simply because what's being discussed doesn't fit in with their warped view of what EVE should be, or how it should be played, the ones who's own rigidity allows no other views apart from their own. It's happening in virtually every thread now and gets ignored by ISD until they decide to lock it rather than addressing the individuals constantly causing it.
I use a couple of other forums for other games, any crap like this gets instantly sorted out on there by the forum mods, it's simply not allowed to grow into threadnaughts of bickering caused by a handful of players whose sole purpose in life seems to be to troll, constantly. Well... yes... i don't disagree per se.
Such a rule would be of no use, though, because of many ... low abilitied ... who would then report others just for disagreeing. My personal wish would be moderation of intentional spreading of vitriol ... ... and moderation of people who continuously attempt to derail, no matter how.
Except jokes and such, ofc. But Veers Belvar - what's his new name - would be screwed. Though maybe C&P likes their pet, I dunno...
I really dislike all the useless back and forth pinging about details, too. It completely stalls progress. People waste pages over pages needing to correct people who say wrong things ... ... as if anyone learned anything from it ... ... instead of interested ones just kesping the conversation going.
Like, baltec's idea here in GD seems to be an interesting approach ... ... but it's completely useless lost in the lighting rod.
Meh ... vOv
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 09:47:36 -
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Avaelica Kuershin wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
I really dislike all the useless back and forth pinging about details, too. It completely stalls progress. People waste pages over pages needing to correct people who say wrong things ... ... as if anyone learned anything from it ... ... instead of interested ones just kesping the conversation going.
Too many threads like that. They start off interesting only to devolve into arguing about minutiae. Hard to find the signal among all the noise. There are times when I'd like to read these forums on my phone, but the formatting works against easy reading. Hi!
On my android I read on landscape mode. I think that works well. I use Chrome, but I should be switching over to something else. I wonder what your issue is, because I think it's fine.
In case you need a good keyboard, let me suggest "Hacker's Keyboard" free from the playstore. It's superior in literally every single way possible and one can even spawn it where the default won't come up.
Thank you, you two, for your posts. :)
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 11:33:52 -
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Dibz wrote:Ironically enough, the forum rules prevent me from saying why the forums are worse than reddit. Neat little clause that, at least from the ISD's point of view It's funny how this doesn't match.
You say the forums are worse than reddit ... ... and you also say CAS is full of immature males who behave "cliquey".
And that is pretty much a perfect description of /r/eve.
Make up your mind or stop bullshitting.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 11:50:18 -
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pajedas wrote:@Solecist Project @ISD Buldath
Seems to be a thread of contradictions.
Be sure to run splchk.
See... instead of a twoliner you could have actually explained your point ... ... preferrably relatively objective and true to the facts! :D
But ou don't. You just drop this here and don't actually care about how it comes across. Or if anyone actually understands you.
And you don't care about your spelling, which is a bad sign as well. But all you do is say "i don't care", instead of caring about yourself and asking why it actually matters. And it does!
Why not try again?
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 12:00:59 -
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pajedas wrote:Solecist Project wrote:pajedas wrote:@Solecist Project @ISD Buldath
Seems to be a thread of contradictions.
Be sure to run splchk.
See... instead of a twoliner you could have actually explained your point ... ... preferrably relatively objective and true to the facts! :D But ou don't. You just drop this here and don't actually care about how it comes across. Or if anyone actually understands you. And you don't care about your spelling, which is a bad sign as well. But all you do is say "i don't care", instead of caring about yourself and asking why it actually matters. And it does! Why not try again? You should have scrolled up before you corrected me. Try again. Ah, the inflated ego of the average. Well, there's nothing more to add to this. :)
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 20:14:22 -
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sero Hita wrote:There are hardly any fun threads You have to be the change you want to see in the world. -- Gandhi ... and you have to be a pest with it until it sticks. -- Solecist Project
Go make a funny thread! It'll be appreciated!
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.22 20:16:27 -
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Serene Repose wrote:EVE management posting on Reddit instead of here should be fired for disloyalty. Loyalty towards which part of the divided EVE community?
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 07:51:44 -
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sero Hita wrote:Roenok Baalnorn wrote:The forums are for intelligent conversation. Each to his own of what is defined as intelligent conversation. I find though that these forums are full of circular discussions with people just repeating the same things over and over, moving no where. As the posts stay here for a long time, the threads keep getting necroed by people discussing something offtopic in far too much detail leading to unfruitful discussion leaving the involved parts more bitter than when they started IMO. Go through many of the threads here, check out the dates, check how much discussion is on topic and tell me that is not the case (you can also check out the posting history of the notorious Lucas Kell for great examples). This for me is not intelligent discussion. on R EVE these posts will be out of sight pretty fast and people will not linger in unproductive discussion. That is the big differene for me.
Solecist Project wrote: You have to be the change you want to see in the world. -- Gandhi ... and you have to be a pest with it until it sticks. -- Solecist Project
Is it emptyquoting if i quote myself to avoid typing it again? Hmm...
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 08:34:04 -
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sero Hita wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
Is it emptyquoting if i quote myself to avoid typing it again? Hmm...
Lazy reading, no wish to understand or what is up? I have engaged with many intelligent and good arguments (according to me) over the years (many of which you have also taken part). This is not my RL job though, and as the negativity of these forums affect my mood in RL, I will pass and continue to my stuff on reddit. Eve is just entertainment for me nothing more. And you misunderstand: I was just explaning why I think these forums are horrible, not how to change it as I don't care (I honestly dislike these forums after years running against the wall, and some simple primal part of me is amused by the decline in activity here caused by all the negativity and bad discussions here creating more negativity.. and round and round we go... watching the forums burn to ashes .. dead... cold ... inactive...etc.. etc.. ). And don't be mistaken you are the one who needs these forums to do your meta stuff, not me (my enjoyment mostly come from playing the game with my corp). While symphathetic to your cause, you also have to accept that some people are just not as invested in EVE(The forums) as you are, without that it means that society is on a deroute or that we need a change in society ... Hey, I play my way! It's a sandbox, I can play any way i wanna!
Lol sorry, it was just too fitting... ;) (I did it once, i will do it again!)
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 10:02:08 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:http://www.pegi.info/en/index/id/33/
PEGI 12 Videogames that show violence of a slightly more graphic nature towards fantasy character and/or non graphic violence towards human-looking characters or recognisable animals, as well as videogames that show nudity of a slightly more graphic nature would fall in this age category. Any bad language in this category must be mild and fall short of sexual expletives. ****! i should have been permabanned long ago! :(
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 11:08:41 -
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sero Hita wrote:Solecist Project wrote: You have to be the change you want to see in the world. -- Gandhi ... and you have to be a pest with it until it sticks. -- Solecist Project
Go make a funny thread! It'll be appreciated!
I get your point, but the thing is I can already read funny posts on R/EVE or post funny post there with less restrictions than here. TBH. I am very pragmatic of nature and I don't feel any responsiblity towards these forums (or the players here who don't want to use other platforms), when there is a well functioning community on R/EVE voting away all the crap that makes me want to be antisocial on these forums. It is not lazyness, it is using something that is already there and working better IMO. This is just my opinion though, and there are probably plenty people out there finding that these forums are super important. I missed an important detail about your response.
Your orientation is "consumerism". No clue how to word that better.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 11:39:24 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:sero Hita wrote:... there is a well functioning community on R/EVE voting away all the crap that makes me want to be antisocial on these forums ... 2 issues with this... #1: Well Functioning? I've heard Reddit's community called a lot of things...but rarely *that*... #2: Do you not find it dull limiting yourself to a group that all think the same way, and simply vote away any discussions that don't match their own general views? I find it very hard to believe that any *truly* controversial topics are ever discussed there - since by the very definition anything the people in your community view as "controversial" will be down-voted out of existence before meaningful conversation can take place... Sometimes there is value in seeing opposing viewpoints, and even in having a pointless argument just to better understand the mind-set of the other side. You point out an interesting phenomenon that connects to consumerism, media and politics. Plus a individuality-paradoxon no one ever considers.
Or as Sibyyl called it: mindshare, also called groupthink.
Part of the higher meta "divide and conquer" department.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 11:40:52 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:I find it very hard to believe that any *truly* controversial topics are ever discussed there - Hey, there's a subreddit for that: https://www.reddit.com/r/controversy Pretty slow though. I don't dare clicking it ... i might like it... :D
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:25:39 -
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Dibz wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Dibz wrote:Ironically enough, the forum rules prevent me from saying why the forums are worse than reddit. Neat little clause that, at least from the ISD's point of view It's funny how this doesn't match. You say the forums are worse than reddit ... ... and you also say CAS is full of immature males who behave "cliquey". And that is pretty much a perfect description of /r/eve. What's funny is how you took two unrelated statements, put them together, and presented them as a contradiction in terms even though they're not. How are they not?
You complained about a certain male mindset you dislike ... ... which is exactly the mindset easily found on reddit and /r/eve specifically.
Can you actually explain that?
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:28:41 -
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sero Hita wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote: There is nothing wrong with entertaining - but it isn't the tone CCP has chosen for their own forums...That doesn't make the EVE forums "bad" - it just makes them *less entertaining* and *more serious*. And there *is* a difference.
Yes I know, what makes these forums bad as I already posted is that in order to get to the interesting bits on these forums you often have to read your way through 80% bile and Repetitions of 200 page threadnaughts. There is no way to highlight the constructive posts here. They are buried in all the other stuff Things go bad, because people have started caring about fun only.
Everyone understands that life is **** and work sucks it dry ... ... but when tens of thousands of people only care about their fun ... ... then society as a whole begins to degrade.
Degradation into shallowness ... ... and the constant hunt for "fun" things that fight the boredom caused by this very behaviour in the first place.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 14:34:58 -
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Dibz wrote:Solecist Project wrote:How are they not?
You complained about a certain male mindset you dislike ... ... which is exactly the mindset easily found on reddit and /r/eve specifically.
Can you actually explain that? I don't see the kind of thing I'm talking about in /r/eve. Don't get me wrong, /r/eve is full of shitposts, probably even more than this forum. It's just CAS chat is kind of... unique. That's interesting and actually surprising.
Ah well.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Posted - 2016.08.25 08:55:27 -
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TackyTachy1 wrote:I just finished reading this entire thread. Why, I wonder? You did well. Nicely done!
*pats you on the back* :)
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.08.25 19:10:56 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:This isn't about poor spelling or grammar - those are merely minor annoyances for me.
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a curious hybrid communication system, falling somewhere between Chat and Discussion. It's not very successful much of the time. But still, here I am....
Yo ain' talkin' **** 'bout ma gramma do ya?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.08.26 10:39:16 -
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Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ...
Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.08.26 10:48:37 -
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Alternatively it could be a face of a drug abuser needing more.
Still, why the **** would someone want that?
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
8 Golden Rules of EVE
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Posted - 2016.08.26 12:43:09 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Well, there goes my forum free day, but I`LL KEEP IT SHORT ...
Am i the only one who ever wondered why someone would want a profile pic that looks like a 20 year old woman crying and her face looking like "please stop" ? I'm not crying just got some DUST514 in my eye cringe I wasn't talking about you, silly... you look way older than that!
*runs* xD
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.08.26 15:20:10 -
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Ain't you cute, you two... <3
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.08.26 15:27:39 -
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Oh I'd love to be a hillbilly like you are ...
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.09.01 07:07:44 -
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Kalido Raddi wrote:On Reddit you can have any opinion you want, as long as you agree with the herd.
On the forums you can take a contrary position on an issue and at least have your opinion seen, not downvoted into oblivion.
Also, /r/eve is basically terrible at anything except propaganda about the herds preferred side in Sov warfare. It's funny to see how real the game is. Reddit is full of the sheep governments need to wage war and secure their richness.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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Posted - 2016.09.01 13:39:11 -
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Voxinian wrote:Viktor Amarr wrote: The rules we have here aren't severe or unrealistic at all nor is the moderation too much or inconsistent. If one can't stay within the reasonable constraints of those rules we have then that's a problem of the poster, not the forum.
Consistent moderation? I think that there are some people on this forum that are so used of getting away with 'bad forum behaviour' that every other comment they make is some form of troll attempt or in general demenaing behaviour against new players and players with a different opinion than them. Reading the forum gives me a good idea about why there isn't any/much new blood in the game, no free to play scheme will fix that. Which reminds of your own posts and how you're projecting your **** onto others.
You really need to look into a mirror first.
That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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